Comments on: My Leaning Bookshelf – 18 Books That Are Influencing My Lean Learning Path http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/ Adopt, Scale and Succeed with Agile Development Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:30:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Bas Vodde http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-1413 Bas Vodde Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:46:49 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-1413 An interesting reading list. I wouldn't put all the same books as you put there :) Also, I'd expected three different books to be there. So, perhaps add these still: - Taichi Ohno - Workplace Management - Allen Ward - Lean Process and Product Development - Jeff Liker - Toyota Culture These three have been very insightful for me. Good luck with your studies! An interesting reading list. I wouldn’t put all the same books as you put there :)

Also, I’d expected three different books to be there. So, perhaps add these still:

- Taichi Ohno – Workplace Management
- Allen Ward – Lean Process and Product Development
- Jeff Liker – Toyota Culture

These three have been very insightful for me. Good luck with your studies!

]]> By: Israel Gat http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-1277 Israel Gat Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:07:29 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-1277 If it only were "my book"... I did not read the two books you mention (my bookshelf is leaning too...) However, Erik Huddleston recently told me something that can shed light on your thoughts about commonality in these books. Erik believes only a very small number of core problems exists. They manifest themselves however in different ways in various domains. For example, over the years we realized some problems that Erik solved in Supply Chain Management I independently solved in System Management without realizing that he had already done so in his domain. If you accept the premise, I would suggest/speculate that the very same core problem might manifest itself in each of the three books. Israel If it only were “my book”…

I did not read the two books you mention (my bookshelf is leaning too…) However, Erik Huddleston recently told me something that can shed light on your thoughts about commonality in these books. Erik believes only a very small number of core problems exists. They manifest themselves however in different ways in various domains. For example, over the years we realized some problems that Erik solved in Supply Chain Management I independently solved in System Management without realizing that he had already done so in his domain. If you accept the premise, I would suggest/speculate that the very same core problem might manifest itself in each of the three books.

Israel

]]> By: Jean Tabaka http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-1265 Jean Tabaka Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:26:52 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-1265 Great Israel! Thanks for the high-level overview. Your comments remind me of two books on my "leaning" bookshelf: Knowledge-Creating Companies, by Nonaka and Takeuchi; and The Dance of Change, by Senge. Or maybe your book is a combination of these two. My thought is that a living company has much in common with a learning, knowledge-creating company. I always look forward to your recommendations! Jean Great Israel! Thanks for the high-level overview. Your comments remind me of two books on my “leaning” bookshelf: Knowledge-Creating Companies, by Nonaka and Takeuchi; and The Dance of Change, by Senge. Or maybe your book is a combination of these two. My thought is that a living company has much in common with a learning, knowledge-creating company.

I always look forward to your recommendations!

Jean

]]> By: Israel Gat http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-1160 Israel Gat Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:47:49 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-1160 Now that I have finished reading The Living Company, I wholeheartedly recommend adding it to Jean's list. See (http://tr.im/iCYN) for the idea that impressed me most in this thought provoking book. Israel Now that I have finished reading The Living Company, I wholeheartedly recommend adding it to Jean’s list. See (http://tr.im/iCYN) for the idea that impressed me most in this thought provoking book.

Israel

]]> By: Israel Gat http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-699 Israel Gat Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:31:44 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-699 I have not finished reading the book yet. From what I gleaned so far, learning to Arie de Geus is about sensitivity to the surrounding environment and willingness to change to be in harmony with it. A company is more likely to survive for the long haul if it has this capacity. To me this is linked in a fascinating manner to Jared Diamond's book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed. It seems that learning as a survival imperative applies equally well to the individual, the team, the corporation and society. Hoping to finish the book in my flight tomorrow to the Rally event in NYC. Will comment more then. Israel I have not finished reading the book yet. From what I gleaned so far, learning to Arie de Geus is about sensitivity to the surrounding environment and willingness to change to be in harmony with it. A company is more likely to survive for the long haul if it has this capacity. To me this is linked in a fascinating manner to Jared Diamond’s book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed. It seems that learning as a survival imperative applies equally well to the individual, the team, the corporation and society.

Hoping to finish the book in my flight tomorrow to the Rally event in NYC. Will comment more then.

Israel

]]> By: Jean Tabaka http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-678 Jean Tabaka Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:47:43 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-678 Thanks again Israel. Are you willing to comment on where you see Arie's work fitting in with Lean and learning? Thanks again Israel. Are you willing to comment on where you see Arie’s work fitting in with Lean and learning?

]]> By: Jean Tabaka http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-677 Jean Tabaka Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:46:46 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-677 Thank you Israel. We agree about the value of the work of Peter Senge with a Lean adoption. I think this can be subtle. However, creating and SUSTAINING learning organizations is truly critical to Lean adoptions that are sustained. This goes back to many of the insights in the book "The Toyota Way". Which reminds me, I failed to add another book to my leaning bookshelf "Extreme Toyota" by Emi Osono, Norihiko Shimizu, and Hiortaka Takeuchi. In this book, the authors emphasize 6 opposing forces that drive the company. They then devote an entire chapter to "Toyota's Nerve System--A Human Version of the World Wide Web" which emphasizes the learning and knowledge practices of the company. How are you applying these principles about learning in your own organizations? Thanks, Jean Thank you Israel. We agree about the value of the work of Peter Senge with a Lean adoption. I think this can be subtle. However, creating and SUSTAINING learning organizations is truly critical to Lean adoptions that are sustained. This goes back to many of the insights in the book “The Toyota Way”. Which reminds me, I failed to add another book to my leaning bookshelf “Extreme Toyota” by Emi Osono, Norihiko Shimizu, and Hiortaka Takeuchi. In this book, the authors emphasize 6 opposing forces that drive the company. They then devote an entire chapter to “Toyota’s Nerve System–A Human Version of the World Wide Web” which emphasizes the learning and knowledge practices of the company. How are you applying these principles about learning in your own organizations? Thanks, Jean

]]> By: Jean Tabaka http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-676 Jean Tabaka Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:35:55 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-676 Thank you for the recommendations Alina. Can you tell me more about these books and how they are influencing you with regard to Lean Adoption? I hadn't heard about either of them before and am eager to find what excites you about them. Thank you for the recommendations Alina. Can you tell me more about these books and how they are influencing you with regard to Lean Adoption? I hadn’t heard about either of them before and am eager to find what excites you about them.

]]> By: Israel Gat http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-655 Israel Gat Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:41:31 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-655 I just started reading The Living Company by Arie de Geus (http://tr.im/hVL1). Initial impressions: it will be a wonderful edition to Jean's list. Israel I just started reading The Living Company by Arie de Geus (http://tr.im/hVL1). Initial impressions: it will be a wonderful edition to Jean’s list.

Israel

]]> By: Israel Gat http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/2009/03/my-leaning-bookshelf-18-books-that-are-influencing-my-lean-learning-path/#comment-631 Israel Gat Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:42:05 +0000 http://www.rallydev.com/agileblog/?p=1137#comment-631 Indeed, Senge will be an excellent addition. In particular, the book he co-authored with Dee Hock - "One from Many: VISA and the Rise of the Chaordic Organization" is a great explanation (in its own way) of the deeper truths of Agile. Israel Indeed, Senge will be an excellent addition. In particular, the book he co-authored with Dee Hock – “One from Many: VISA and the Rise of the Chaordic Organization” is a great explanation (in its own way) of the deeper truths of Agile.

Israel

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