Comments on: What’s Your Point of View?

By: Richard Leavitt

Richard Leavitt — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:53:47 +0000

But I can appreciate the opposing view a bit. Which is that Agile has passed a tipping point and Waterfall/RUP is in decline. Maybe “versus” is too strong, but as we pursue organizational change, it helps to starkly *contrast* what’s so different about decreasing batch size and building product continually. To show how different it will be to form x-functional teams out of department silos.

After all, for many organizations, this is like changing their DNA. Forrester’s “Lean is Agile…” report describes it like this: “Waterfall processes have become obstacles to speed, quality and predictability…Enterprises have defined waterfall process standards based on or similar to RUP, and most development shops now have these waterfall processes in their DNA.”

I still like the Ken’s advice. You get more with sugar than salt. I still like to help folks see the difference.

By: Leslie Guth

Leslie Guth — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:57:42 +0000

I agree, a great post! So often, I hear people in the wrong conversation, a religious battle of one ‘doctrine’ or one label **versus** another. As described here, these are just basic and good ideas in realizing high performace teams and organizations. The more people realize this and stop the religious battles, the better!!

By: Phil Ruse

Phil Ruse — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:36:04 +0000

Great post. I’m beginning to loathe “versus” as it rather misses the point.

By: Sameh

Sameh — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:18:40 +0000

Ken,

I like this list. I agree that we should not side any doctrine, rather we should do the right action based on team agreement.